![]() ![]() ( I mean to this day Northern France is still receiving a lot of Japanese immigrants that LGBTQ folk that fled the country because the japanese average joe just refuses to fucking listen already. So please in the future do document yourself a bit more. Especially given that these days they always have an english version of their websites.Īnd when it comes to Catherine it's even more complicated because transvestite culture and transgender issues are still not clearly separated issues in your average joe japanese minds, so this is a place where for the time being we're gonna continue to see fairly cringy shit coming from japan.Įspecially given that again Heika culture is a very vivid thing and an industry that overshadows and participate to silenciation of trans rights movements in japan. So here the problem is even thicker because although Japanese LGBTQ folk do face various issues too the culturally don't exactly have the same way to fight back, and if you add to that translation necessities it's whole complete mess.īefore making a judgement call play the game in japanese and reach out to LGBTQ associations over there to see what THEY make of it. In fact when I played Persona 5 in japanese I was even weirded out by the amount of people yelling in english on the internet that Persona 5 was homophobic. Warn or ban for derail if must, it's worth it to share it.Ĭlick to shrink.Havin talked to various LGBTQ folk in japan about Personna games and Catherine the thing is that a lot of LGBTQ folk over there have a certain sense of self deprecating humor every now and then that is often lost in translation like big time. Sorry all that this video doesn't really belong in the thread, but just want to share it since I've been referencing it. Doesn't have that specific question though. It's quite excellent.Įdit: Welp, there's a shorter clip from it with subtitles. It's a series of "All X panel", where people of many different groups talk about different assumptions, generalizations and stereotypes about them. But I did just watch that part again and I think I got it right. Though I also hope I haven't misinterpreted what was said, since I'm still very much learning as most of us are. It's a shame the panel isn't subtitled, would love to share it at ResetEra too. So these assumptions and attitudes are more towards women and men don't really face it as much. Since men haven't been in pop culture in the same manner. They also mentioned that the drag queen culture that's often been quite mainstream here has probably given wrongful impressions and added confusion about women especially. ![]() ![]() Just that it seemed they thought of it as an appropriate term to use and not offensive, when it's not directed to a transgender person. Then they made the distinction and commented that people can confuse them with transvestites (or they just don't know the right term). As the question they often face is "how often are you a man or a woman?" The answer from them was "always". I ment that transgender people don't call themselves as a transvestite, but they specifically emphasized that it's a different thing than being a transgender. Įdit: Sorry, I read your post again and noticed that I read your post wrong. But like I said in Finland the separation happened peacefully in terms of structures, but in terms of social relationships they're still okay with each others. So yes trans and gender queer DO have a say in the matter since they're the most concerned. So I'm not too surprised to hear that trans and queer folk still calls cross dressers "transvestites" and see nothing wrong with it )Īnd if cross dressers stopped calling themselves transvestites they always did to dissociate themselves from trans and gender queer folk either out of spite or because they were asked to. (it also helps that linguistically speaking your language is bit more flexible gendering wise, so yeah the separation happened peacefully and on friendly terms only for clarity's sake and educational purposes towards straight people. The separation happened so that their respective actions are indeed viewed as two separates sets of problem although society lumps them together in the same bag because of gender rolling. Click to shrink.Finland has an LGBT history where cross dressing defense rights associations turned into separate entities yet trans and gender queer folk hold no grudge and no ill will.
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